Anthony William, we'll scoot down a little bit.
Just a little touch. There we go.
Anthony William, the medical medium.
Kristen Cassidy.
Okay.
Calvin Stebbins, right here.
Two amazing people.
A healing story. A powerful healing story.
It's inspirational.
It means the world to me
because they're family to me.
And so it really
matters so much.
I have them here. This is incredible.
I didn't think I could get them here
but we made it happen. It's incredible. So we're all together. So I just want to introduce everybody
that this is the these two people are so precious to me. They've been through a lot. And it gets me
choked up. I actually started getting choked up about it. Because I'll never forget. And it's been
it's been you know, it's been a long time now. But we're gonna we're gonna talk about what happened.
We're going to talk about how serious it was.
Calvin's been through.
He's 18 years old now, which is incredible.
He was 10 years old at the time.
They contacted me 10 years ago.
We're going to talk about it all.
Everybody just get ready and sit back.
We got your celery juice, right?
Yeah, I think we should start with our celery juice.
I'm going to have a little now.
That's actually a good idea.
That's actually a good idea.
Yeah, it's been kind of hectic and crazy this morning and getting ready and everything.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Oh, yeah.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Awesome.
Awesome.
I think I spilled some on you.
That's okay.
Thank you, Seth.
We're family here.
So, anyway, we're here to tell a story, talk about a story that happened, and it's eight
years ago now.
I would say not just eight years ago.
It's going on ten years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Get it right, Anthony.
Get it right.
And, yeah, it's been quite some time.
And you were 10 years old.
10 years old, yeah.
When it happened and everything.
So, hey, you know, you guys, you want to start?
And I can tell you, I just know when you guys reached out, it was your mom that reached out?
Is that how it happened originally?
Yeah, my mom was the one that found you in a magazine and got this sort of intuitive hit
that this was someone that could help us.
And we were at a point where we were so desperate at that point
when we did find you.
And this had started in January.
Calvin had started with just a stomach book,
just an upper respiratory thing.
Like every kid gets a normal cold.
And then Justin was having this abdominal pain that just continued
for months, weeks, and months, and just progressed and progressed.
and we went through all of this,
we went through everything that we could possibly
go through. By the time we had met you,
we were at a bad
place and it was just a very,
very desperate, desperate, I was,
I was just at a place of
such desperation. As a mother, it was just
the most
challenging thing to have
your child so sick and to
be
so hopeless. And our whole family,
Calvin's dad and Calvin's
sister, who's a little older too, we all
you know all of us together having to go through this but i every day it was a it was a full-time
job every day to find something that would work for him every day i brought you i would bring you
things you weren't really psyched about energy workers for a 10 year old for a 10 year old it's
got to be really hard i mean i've talked about this for years too but it's of course what mom
goes through because it's unimaginable to when that's happening but then when you're 10 years of
age though it's really confusing I mean and it's like okay what's wrong here life was normal and
then now I can't really function I can't do anything and that's you know you know and I
remember being on the phone with you and you were just literally in tears but it was more it was
you were i mean it was he couldn't get up and walk when i was on the phone with you right right and
and you told me he was his spirit was so broken you've been to the hospitals you've seen all the
doctors seeing the best doctors around all of this and and that's the thing and i always tell
people science and research doesn't have information for people that we think they do
they think we think they have it all set yeah i think they have it all down but you quickly find
now that's not true and that's that i mean and so tell me a little bit like you what you remember
were you in pain because i remember you were excruciating pain excruciating pain yeah i think
the hardest part too is in the medical industry if they don't know what it is then they say you
have a mental illness that was the biggest thing that we were going unbelievable i was 10 years old
i had this enormous amount of pain that um i could feel in my body and then mental state was terrible
because everybody was saying I was crazy.
They wanted to put me in the loony bin, pretty much.
Unbelievable.
Because they didn't know what it was.
I know, it makes me just go back to that moment.
What people don't know about back in the oldies,
I've been doing this for 35 years.
People think I started this yesterday,
meaning doing the work we're doing all these days.
And this is going on 10 years with you guys,
but I think I started this yesterday.
They think I just popped out a book
where I started some celery juice thing,
but they don't know that back years ago,
And what they did was they just told you it was all in your head.
Now they're teaching you you're creating it.
That's the new thing they're doing.
They're teaching you you're creating it.
So it's like you're saying, well, it's your fault.
You're creating it.
You're not attached to the universe.
You're not attached to some things, whatever.
And it breaks my heart.
But the older days, it was like it's in your head.
Can you imagine telling a 10-year-old and a 10-year-old's mom that he's making it up?
I mean, he's in absolutely excruciating pain.
It kills me.
This is the stuff.
This is the stuff that kept me going every day because it's like, we can't have this happen.
I mean, you went through hell.
Yeah.
I mean.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was hell on earth.
I mean, yeah, at first it was confusing.
And then when it got to the point where just before we met you, that was rock bottom.
That was, it was rock bottom.
Like everybody, I was tired.
Everybody would just want to give up.
friends some friends and family gave up on me though you know it was so as a 10 year old that
is the hardest thing yeah is so yeah it's not just being like excruciating pain you can't go
and you can't go and you can't play you're 10 years old yeah you can't ride your bike you can't
have any fun you're bedridden yeah and then family really doesn't certain aspects of family's not
really trusting in how you're being because they heard from a professional that well we can't find
anything wrong with him and that's the thing science research doesn't know what's wrong with
anybody that even has a diagnosis anyway yeah so it's it's this is exactly what's happening out
there but i mean i can't imagine as a little kid and i remember i mean i was like when i was on the
phone with you and talking to you and stuff i when i was hearing how you guys are being treated
you know with the medical industry i mean i've seen it happen before but but when you see with
you know literally i mean you were so choked up you couldn't even speak i mean you couldn't even
speak anymore and then yeah you said he can't even get out of bed anthony and no one no one is helping
yeah oh it brings me back i just get emotional yeah i mean as a mother like that was and you
know there's all those moments where i'm just like you know i i can't give up can't give up on your
child it's like you have to do everything within your power and i had a big bag of tricks like i
really thought i had you know i i was a you know i was a practicing herbalist for a really long time
so which is incredible calvin was amazing calvin like lived in the garden and i made all these
things and that's what i treated him with and so i knew a lot of alternative healers um and they
were actually great they they you know i went from phone calls to people across the country
I exhausted all attempts of certain doctors that I had and they could go so far they went so far to
support what they could but really it was so out of their sort of you know realm of you know we
really did have this mystery illness the medical um I used as sort of a last choice but I mean
we went through that whole process because he was in such pain I mean he was I'm like we got to go
the ER and get him comfortable and so we did ER visits from our town we went to Dartmouth we had
to drive every time we drove him to the larger medical which was the Dartmouth Hitchcock in our
era it was like a snowstorm it was like white knuckles driving either in a snowstorm or something
he did the scopes we did the blood tests we did it's hard it's hard to take your son it's hard
to take your child to all these different tests driving around I mean with no answers so you're
on a wild goose chase yeah it was it was unbelievable and they also in some of their
bedside manner was you know like after he did his scopes and I came in and then he started that
stomach pain and he was moaning because it was just a you know he just moaned all day long and
she's told him be quiet and I thought okay I wheeled him out of that day in a wheelchair and
He just says, Mom, they're not on our side.
In that moment, I said to him, you know what?
No, they're not, but I'm here, and I'm not giving up,
and I'm going to do whatever I can.
It just kept going and going and going, and no answers.
We can get through, and it was a full-time job.
I had to connect with all the doctors.
I actually hired a doctor if you do that.
Hired someone else as his primary because they were just not what you do.
You have to advocate so intensely.
it's unbelievable i'm not against doctors never was i know i know i know hundreds of doctors i
talked about some great i've helped yeah but you gotta fire them if you have to fire them
yeah you gotta fire them if you have to fire them yeah you just have to because i mean blessings
but like we just needed some other support that just wasn't happening there that's all well you
know it's it's and look someone may think 10 years ago is not a long time ago that's a long time ago
Times were harder than, sure, with being recognized that you even have something wrong with you.
But still, this is still happening today, regardless.
But it happened a lot more back then.
But it's tragic in the sense where, because it's lingering afterwards.
It's like the PTSD is what I know you guys have gone through.
you've told me about it but it's the it's the post-traumatic stress syndrome or ptsss they call
pt pt sorry ptss right that's what they call it now it's a stress syndrome versus you know
and um but the bottom line is you guys went through a lot of that the whole yeah yeah yeah
we went through everything i mean it was pretty much i was just like a testing dummy for a few
months until i met you going into doctors doctors are great but when it comes to something that
they don't know that's the thing with people if they if they don't know something then they tend
to not like it so they tend to not focus on it yeah and that's kind of what the doctors did
they didn't know what it was so they didn't focus on it they picked another excuse for it yeah which
was a hard thing to do it was hard and like you said the medical was just that um there was i was
grateful for all the testing to show but nothing would show up on his testing so it was like
nothing came in to this um this illness well i want to bring it back so you know you felt ill
at first we're going to talk about we're going to talk about what happened in along the way your
recovery what i saw we're going to go into all that too but everybody's wondering what was it
yeah yeah and we're gonna we're gonna cover that again yeah and but like as far as like
as you were getting worse
and the pain was there.
I mean, rock bottom was
you were just laying in bed.
Yeah, couldn't walk.
Couldn't walk.
Yeah, it was too painful.
I couldn't even walk across the floor.
It hurt so bad, the vibration.
That's what you said, right?
Yeah.
Because I remember you telling me.
You couldn't put him in a car
and bring him anywhere at some point.
You told me that he couldn't walk.
You told me he couldn't be carried.
Right.
You told me that dad had to carry him around.
Yeah, we would carry him.
You'd carry him around.
yeah yeah right sometimes yeah yeah and then if you walk the you could your steps were just even
just stepping was so painstaking yeah until he couldn't walk anymore that's when it got really
scary yeah and that was when as calvin said that rock bottom too of feeling like you like you said
you think you've got that there's gotta be someone out there who knows something like you it's been
six months almost of just everything and hitting a wall hitting a wall and having people in your
life like i had some of my best friends at the time show up and say you know what are you doing
to get in the way of this healing why aren't you have him on psych meds he's gonna end up in a
diaper if you don't end it i'm like i can't go down the road of fear with you i'm sorry it's
uncomfortable to watch this you can't imagine what it's like to live it i always can't but
i go i honor what you're saying i'll look at everything you know we did try the psych route
they wanted to put him on these meds that i couldn't even believe you know it's just like
got you know oh god that's when i yeah it was just like all right we're gonna cover everything
to the point where we feel but the biggest thing was just like of everything that we got out of
this and what i thought of it too is just like i had to follow my gut instinct i'm like i know that
it's not in his head i know that everyone in everyone around me was saying you're doing the
wrong thing you're doing the wrong thing he's gonna end up here and you're you know you're
gonna regret this what if he what if he dies and you're gonna regret not doing you know and i felt
Like, every test he got, it just didn't help.
You know, it made it worse almost.
A 10-year-old just wants to play, be happy, and eat.
He wanted to snowboard.
It was like snowboard.
There's no extra, you know.
A 10-year-old boy doesn't lay in a bed and purposely just go into a mental state to die.
Right.
Yeah.
It doesn't happen.
But that's important.
And the thing is, and I've been talking about this for years, is that you lose friends.
You know who your friends are.
You know who your friends are.
And then you lose them, too.
You know who you do have as friends.
And then you know who isn't your friend.
Or isn't, you know, because they can't put some type of belief system.
They can't put that.
They put that ahead of you knowing your son's suffering.
They put that ahead of your son's suffering.
And I think people do that because it makes them feel better.
That's what I've learned.
It makes them feel comfortable to whatever they believe in,
how science and research has the answers.
Because you're doubting science and research,
and that makes them uncomfortable because people want to feel safe.
And I tell them, you're not safe.
Chronic illness is growing exponentially.
It's populating.
the population on the planet is basically suffering at this point i mean because people
are hurting because i mean it's just the u.s alone there's so many people sick i mean and
with symptoms but this was this was grave at the point it was you know it was grave it was really
really um it was really hard for you guys but it's but like i said it's it's people want to feel
better you notice that that's what they do so they'll they'll turn against you or they won't
believe you because it makes them feel comfortable because that's another thing it's the most bizarre
thing but it's true it is and i think a lot of it i just i mean when my friends came to me i um i was
just still um i recognized it was just their fear they were afraid there was nothing they could do
um and i didn't understand you know that you know that i said to just you know i just got to do what
feels right to me even though it was really just a few people in our lives who were on our same page
just a few everyone else just all the teachers I mean some of the you know you're just a lot of
other family members I mean and the friends too I mean they just didn't know they were just probably
as confused but they didn't live the daily every day that was so excruciating and to even hear them
in pain and for us to to feel that you know and to have trouble sleeping and it was just so much
I had him watching videos we were watching Jeff Dunham and even though I felt it was a little
inappropriate at the time the puppet guy i just knew that laughter was needed because it was we
were like i was feeling like my spirit was breaking and i was scared of that like i was
starting to head into a place where i wasn't even comfortable going and i couldn't give up but i was
at that moment where yeah i was i was sitting at the table going oh my god i'm gonna do what i just
said i would never do i'm i'm giving up i have nothing else to turn to and that was like that's
where i was i was in it was raining outside you guys have finally gone to sleep and i was just
crying like on the table going i don't know what to do i've done everything and that and then you're
a godson it was like my mother calling her your mom my mom's a godson she's a godson my mom but
she was just like i think you know i found you know i saw this guy kind of you know think you
should go check them out and i you know and then i called them and she said i gave my plea and
they're really busy but they're gonna they're gonna talk to you and you know and then we
remember my office i remember that was when i was doing consultations i did decades of
consultations you guys know that i've talked about that before but but but i think that that was
yep my office got in touch with you and i remember them they were taking your plea to me
yeah and they were just like no you have to help now and i'm like i you know i was working on 50
people a day as it was from morning till night all the way till midnight i slept so many hours
i'm you know all of it but the point was was i was just like and my yeah my the people in my
office was like they were like no you have that drop everything and they knew and they knew and
And they were coming back at me, and I said, okay, okay.
I said, okay, you got it.
And I got on the phone with you, and I was like, oh, yeah, no, we have to take care of this.
We have to get this better.
Because, so, and you know, and the thing is, is that, the thing is, is you guys did what I wanted you to do.
That's the thing that I'm going to talk about, too.
Yeah.
Because that's a whole other thing.
And you were like, I don't care what it is.
Yes.
You tell me he's going to do it.
And first of all, you know, to think that like when a professional or doctor says, well, your son's making this up or something.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, no, that's not possible.
When he was literally, he wanted to do anything to heal.
He literally wanted to do anything.
Yeah.
Because I said, well, you're going to have to eat like this.
Just whatever.
Yeah.
I did.
He did.
He did.
You're going to have to take all these supplements.
You're just like, yeah.
So, yeah.
And Spirit of Compassion was talking to me, telling me exactly what he needed to make sure you heal.
Now, the information is now in all the books.
So, if anybody's out there and they're like, well, how do I get a hold of Anthony?
How do I do this now?
And that happens.
It's through the books.
The information is in all of them.
Yeah, grab a book.
I'm going to grab a book.
I mean I obviously bought all the books
because we've just been so close
after we just got so close
because I mean I was just
in such a place that I was talking to you
like every other day
and you were like just hang in there
you know so
hang in there he's actually getting better
what else we got the celery juice thing
so that's happening
he's drinking his celery juice now though
I know
I got a spoon
This one's great, too.
I've actually given books to my friends, too, who are watching this and handing them out.
And then you've got your thyroid, your first book.
That one, Cal.
Yeah, because I remember going there.
And this one was great, too.
So, I mean, all of these are incredible.
It's just amazing.
Well, they're medical books.
They're amazing.
That's what people don't realize.
They're actually medical books.
They are.
it's all the information that people can't get anywhere else.
That's what is so incredible.
It's not on the internet.
It's not in other books.
All that stuff doesn't, you know, take this, do this, do your moringa powder, do your collagen.
That's not going to get a 10-year-old boy out of a crippling illness.
It just doesn't.
And, you know, microbiome talk doesn't get a crippling boy out of illness.
It's like all these different things and fads and trends and candida theories and all this other stuff isn't going to do it.
you need real answers but you know i was really i was really happy about you guys contacting me at
the time because when i when i you know when i centered myself because i was like with chicken
with my head got off i said myself i was like oh yeah we have to take care of this now yeah um and
i was so happy when you guys were doing what i needed you to do yeah you know it was like okay
as long as i know you guys were doing it then we can move forward and you can get better and
so i want to talk about a little bit about what happened on my end so so everybody knows out there
so you guys know so started out with a stomach problem but nobody knew what it was it it was
like the you thought it was a cold or something yeah it was just like a normal at first it was
just like a normal sickness people thought it was you know it's a stomach stomach stomach flu or
something yeah okay but he wasn't dealing with the flu he wasn't dealing with a stomach flu he
wasn't dealing with anything or appendicitis or gastro like we went through everything no
you guys went through everything with the medical testing routes all of that we ruled all that out
so what i did i did a scan okay so i did a reading is what what i used to do was that's where how it
would work and spirit of compassion would talk to me and tell me what's going on and give me the
the vision of the internal is internal working so i could see in there as well a whole bunch of white
light comes down many of you probably know I've talked about this before I go partially blind and
then I'm able to see inside the person so that's how it works so what was happening with him he had
a virus viruses I talk about now viruses I talked about before they came to me and advanced
information about virology that doesn't exist anywhere and and so what happens is that's
responsible for chronic illness and why people suffer and I try to keep on teaching that they're
But what happened was I saw a viral issue inside of him, and it was in the shingles family.
It was actually in the shingles family.
Now, children can get the shingles, and it won't rash out.
That's how it works.
They're too young to have it rash out because it's a different form of shingles.
There's over 30 varieties of shingles right now out there.
Many of them are non-rashing that children get.
Adults can get non-rashing ones too, but this is what variety of virus it was.
And the problem is with this virus is it creates so much pain.
Now, an adult can have shingles, and they know the pain it creates.
The outside rash, the amount of nerve pain it creates.
Now, when it's internal like this, it's so debilitating.
You can't walk.
You can't function.
You can barely eat.
You can barely even move.
And you felt kind of almost seized up in pain from your lower abdomen to the top here, right?
And it got to his brain, too.
It got to a point where he was like, you know, I'm dreaming weird like your dream.
Remember you said something about your dreams?
Yeah, I was dreaming weird.
It was interfering with your dreams.
And I'll talk about why.
Right.
And then it's interfering with, and so people are like, oh, he just doesn't want to do homework.
I'm like, no.
You know, he's like, I can't get my brain to work right now.
So he's going to lay in a bed and just waste away and die because he doesn't want to do homework.
Yeah, makes sense, right?
He had lost 15 pounds.
He lost 15 pounds, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't want to do any homework when I was a kid.
No, I don't think I would just want to do any homework.
Yeah, I would just throw my notebook, my homework, you know, away.
Oh, yeah.
And I would just go outside with spirit and go forward.
Yeah, that's what I would do.
But that was how I handled it.
I know you would handle it the same way.
If you didn't want to really do it, you just wouldn't do it.
Yeah.
But you did your homework.
That's not it.
You did exactly and all that.
but it's unbelievable and so the shingles virus that herpetic family virus it's in people have
if you think you don't have the shingles viruses in you i got i gotta just give you this wake-up
call everybody does they there's different varieties and they come out at different times
they give people neuropathy they give people jaw pain trigeminal neurology they give people
migraines they give people fatigue they give people a lot of problems and that's what the
shingles virus does and and those are just some things that it does and and so it's amazing now
it was interfering with sleep because it releases a neurotoxin viruses when they're really hyperactive
like that when you come down with an infection like that like calvin did it releases a neurotoxic
chemical that floats around all through the body and even to the brain it can disturb sleep it can
create sleeping issues can make dreams weird it could do all this kinds of stuff now it's advanced
information you're not going to hear this stuff anywhere and that's what the other thing is because
we're kept in this weird bubble of no one has answers yeah i don't care the best the best
authors the best doctor authors the best whatever all these people out there they don't have the
answers science research doesn't so we're kept in this bubble of just try this try that go get your
blood work oh it's this it's that and and so but this is really complicated information so just try
to re-watch this again to understand how the shinulus virus works and the bottom line is when
it gets into the lymphatic vessels too because that's what happened it got into your lymph glands
from your down from your lower groin all the way up and was spreading it's in its vagus nerve yeah
yeah it was spreading so what happens is when it gets in there it then swells up around the vagus
nerve around the phrenic nerves that run through your chest so you got the vagus nerve and your
phrenic nerves that run down through your neck, down into your chest right here, they
get inflamed from the neurotoxins from the shingles virus.
It can seize you up.
It could get everything to not only hurt in severe critical pain, but it could get your
chest tight.
It could make it so you can't walk.
It could cause so many complications and difficulties.
It's incredible.
And so, and these viruses, if you don't, when they get like that and you don't jump on it
and you don't do the right things, they could go like this and be like this forever.
I mean, for years.
But we jumped on this.
We got it taken care of.
And he doesn't have to worry ever again.
But this was a shingles virus infection.
It got into the lymphatic vessels.
It got into nerves.
And the thing is with abdominal nerves, you're so sensitive that all you need is a viral infection touching all those different abdominal nerves.
And it's crippling.
And for a 10-year-old, here's the scary thing.
You did an amazing job.
You protected your son.
because of how you were mindful about alternative medicine.
You were mindful.
You have a yoga studio.
You still have a yoga studio now.
You're into natural stuff.
He's been eating out of the garden when he was a child.
You have the garden.
You guys were into organic food, right?
That's a miracle.
That's why I don't dislike all of alternative medicine
or alternative thinking.
You know, I always say the alternative medicine world
still is messed up too just like conventional but there's so many great things you guys are
eating organic food i talk about yeah yeah there's great stuff in both both fields too but the thing
is is that that was a blessing because moms out there they they don't have that and they they get
stuck in the conventional way and then what do you do where do you go from there they don't they
don't take they don't they don't reach out for something else or they don't they just stay within
the perimeter of what they have the conventional system or the thought process there and then a
virus like this that could get really severe it could create a problem then the then the children
may get a diagnosis of like als or they may get a child that they may get another diagnosis of
something else or some severe critical multiple sclerosis or they run you through 20 more tests
and they end up injuring you in those 20 tests.
Now you're sicker.
That's what I was afraid of, too.
Now you're even sicker, and this happens.
I've watched this.
There are more babies out there.
Yes, I've watched this.
It's painful.
I've talked to doctors that have watched this.
I've seen some amazing doctors out there talk about other doctors
that have not seen the signs of these things.
And so your motherhood, your mother powers were really on.
I mean, you were really in.
all mom's powers are on they're all doing the best they can and don't have opportunities you
know you know you guys were able to find me you know and and and so yeah i mean but you don't know
what you don't know you know and so that's and like you said too that even when we found you you
said you were caring for a lot of children and a lot of them will end up strapped to a hospital
bed which i knew that that was sort of the i mean i just felt like that was trajectory where we're
headed if they were you know everyone's like just put him on psych meds why isn't he on psych meds
and I just thought you don't get it I I will lose him I will lose him and you know and you said that
that was you know I know I was I was harsh I know you were great no you were great no wait you you
don't I did I say you didn't you weren't harsh well this is my what you said because I was I was
so worried you were but no you just said you are right because I said I know it's not in his head
and you said you are right in that moment it was just to me like okay like my gut instinct i mean
moms just that's like the greatest thing like go with your gut no matter what people say or do and
we had everyone around us in my world just doubting every move you are being a terrible mother i mean
i got i got stuff coming at me and i just thought you know what i have to keep going i have to keep
going i have to keep sticking to here because i will lose him if i even think to do what everyone
is telling me to do so when you just you just stepped in and said you're right it's not in his
head you're right it's like okay so you kind of pulled me up from that spirit i'm just like you
just kind of hang on there you keep going with this keep going with this and that's why it was
like we talked a lot and you said put him on this we'll do that there was only a certain amount of
food available um two we did a lot of bananas we did a lot of potatoes you guys were in vermont
in the winter okay in the winter in vermont yeah i mean i come from maine i know what it's like in
the winter i know what it's like when there's nothing there you know and and and it's just
it's a difficult situation and but it was like okay well what do you have what's there you know
what can we work with yeah that was good it was good because it was sort of like a mono diet in
some way and you're like no that's fine that he's having a lot of bananas it's fine and i drove 45
minutes to an hour every week to go to whole foods so i had more fruit and possibility and i was
making things that weren't so great for you because you couldn't have meat and things like
that no but it was yeah so let's talk about the food a little bit okay i had to keep them off of
animal protein yeah because in order to it doesn't mean you have to be off animal protein the rest of
your life or anything but what it is and this is where belief systems can completely stop somebody
from healing. If someone believes or doctor believes no the animal protein or a family
believes animal protein is going to be the answer, you can't not eat animal protein,
in this situation you wouldn't be here right now. So anybody who's plant-based, this is kudos for
you or whatever. I mean you guys are you know because you plant-based believers are really
they're really strong on their belief system and they fight and they fight you know. Unless they
get a symptom and then they run back to animal protein but we'll talk about it the other time.
But the point is, is depends.
Depends.
Not everybody.
But the point is not everybody.
I know I'm a little too heavy about that.
But the bottom line is, is that the reason why we had to go off the animal protein for you, which is a huge step for a 10 year old boy.
I mean, that's a huge step.
The reason is because the high fat in the bloodstream lowers oxygen levels.
So we won't have a good chance of healing the virus.
Your virus is in your blood.
It's in nerves.
It's in organs.
and then if the blood fat's too high because you're having chicken fat because chicken lean
chicken lean chicken breast without the skin has all this fat in it if you have too much of any
kind of animal protein fat or if you have an animal protein that could feed viruses that's
a whole nother thing and i'm not anti-animal protein i'm not anti-vegan whatever i'm just
giving you guys the layout is viruses they they can't thrive when oxygen levels are really high
in the bloodstream. That's number one. Okay. Number two, in order to get medicinals in your
system rapidly and faster, you can't have high blood fat. You can't have chicken fat. And I mean,
I've seen this over and over again. And you got the keto diet, which is a high fat diet. And
meanwhile, you put somebody, if a 10 year old boy suffering to this degree has a virus like this,
so many do out there and you put them on a keto diet, we're going to go downhill from there.
People don't realize that.
And so I'm not anti-keto diet.
I'm just saying.
It's in this crisis situation we're applying, especially.
Like you were saying, can't have him on me.
He will atrophy.
He will heal when he's lying down.
People that are lying down, I thought all these people in hospitals that need healing are being fed the wrong diet.
Here's how it works.
The high fat, when you're bedridden and you have the possibility of atrophying and losing muscle,
and you're eating the animal proteins, the high fats block sugars from getting to your cells.
And sugar is how you sustain muscle.
Laying in bed, I've had to help so many people with severe neurological disorders or viruses or problems
or just chronic illness of some kind.
It's like, whoa, did the high fats have to go?
The animal products have to go for a little while because we need to sustain your muscle because
Carbohydrates is how we keep muscles. It's how we keep those muscles built and keep those muscles strong
People don't know that so here's how it works is okay number one. You're stuck in bed. You're ten years old
You can't use your muscles now. We're at the now. We're at the mercy of the conventional system both psychiatrists
psychiatry both the medical system he's 10 years old they can possibly take him
away from you who knows you know the mindset they have right yeah you know
that's how they do and here you are laying in bed and we had to say hey
wait a minute we have to make sure you sustain muscles so spirit of compassion
knows this information nobody knew this information out there they still don't
and so it's like sustain your muscles number one we had to lower your fats in
your diet so that viruses can't thrive because here's how it works sugars like fruit sugars and
potatoes sugar and all that doesn't feed viruses it doesn't at all it feeds your muscles it's
antiviral so it's number one so getting getting the fats down lower made more oxygen occur in the
blood it allowed supplementation medicinals to get to the to the virus the virus protects itself
with fat that's how it works so if we eat all these fatty foods and we're sick
then it protects it with all that the fat in the bloodstream and doesn't
matter so what happens is we had to make sure the supplementation got to the bugs
and killed off the bugs so that's what happened we use supplementation I talk
about in the books all the time about viruses and all these different things
we had to make sure that that was ample in your in your bloodstream we had to
make sure that the diet was really clean we had to make sure there was no eggs in
the diet because eggs feed viruses and you were on eggs at the time when i met you guys it was like
okay you're gonna make your 10 year old 10 year old scrambled eggs of course every mom makes their
10 year old child scrambled eggs yeah of course yeah exactly and you know and rightfully so i
totally understand but hey these belief systems we had to be like wait a minute no and we had to
pinpoint no guessing games yeah that's what i've talked about in the books is there's no guessing
games with the medical information it comes from above any of the other information that's all being
thrown around a total guessing game yeah how to make sure we'd save his life and you did you did
just as much of a part of you say i was you too because all these different things you did you
listened and you know you were like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna do that and you were like god i mean
you just ate whatever i told you to eat i mean he wasn't happy and sometimes is a little
You talk about what it was like for you.
Yeah, but he was in pain.
And when you're really in pain,
you're not going to be really happy about anything.
No, no.
That's the other thing, too.
There was some, what was it?
The one that I didn't like,
she would make me, what was it?
It was a chocolate pudding,
but out of guacamole.
Avocado.
I was so excited to make him a dessert
because he couldn't have dessert.
I whipped a cocoa with avocado.
yeah that's good that's good it actually was looked like pudding and i remember thinking god
this tastes really good i think we could only use raw honey so it's raw honey avocado and pure like
cacao or cocoa and i had to go and i whipped it up and it was this made it taste good and i'm like
oh my god chocolate pudding and he goes chocolate pudding he takes a couple bites he goes oh and
then he sees the green in the avocado he goes wait a minute here yeah you just uh no and i'm like oh
I already whip it up enough.
I tried to hide it.
I made you these nut burgers.
And then I think I talked to some other moms too.
You had me just to sort of support.
So there was a support team for other moms
that are just going through this intense situation.
And what can we cook?
And where can we go?
There was a lot of moms that we were helping.
Because that's what happens.
It's just moms who are contacting me every day.
And a lot of moms were helping to recover their children.
and we've recovered just hundreds and even thousands over the decades.
And what happened was, I was like, okay, okay, you've got to talk to different moms.
We'll get you as many moms as you need to that healed her,
that worked on healing her children the same way, that moved forward with everything.
So it was about, so I connected you guys with a lot of moms
and make sure that you had support.
And you were doing fruit, because I remember I had a lot of fruit.
And right now, fruit is shunned.
It's shunned as something bad.
It's shunned as something not healing.
I had you on a lot of fruit. I had you on potatoes.
Yeah, I love potatoes.
Those are the things.
Good liver.
I remember you said, he's getting sick of potatoes.
I remember you saying that.
He's getting sick of potatoes.
I'm actually, I'm like roasting him.
I do everything I could.
Make him in a burger.
He's like, oh.
Yeah, potato burgers.
And so, but you know what?
Man, you're my hero.
Because you're my hero.
Because you just did it.
You did it.
You were just like, you know.
and you just said just whatever I got to do I remember her telling me specifically that you
said you said to me just give me whatever I need I'm going to do what I got to do that's what you
said yeah I mean I even heard you a few times talking then you were talking to me so you were
actually brave enough brave enough to be on the phone meaning you know and mom would be talking
You know, you'd be talking to me.
And I've got to say, you know, it's just I'm really proud of you, man.
I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of this family because, you know, because you guys are tough.
Yeah, it was a family effort.
We all, his dad, his sister, we all just were like, we're just.
It was a whole effort.
I mean, we wouldn't be here without you, so.
I know.
You know.
I know.
The other thing is that Calvin, when he was going through his pain,
and it's just torture to look at your child and just not be able to do anything.
That was the thing, too.
I mean, the medical eye would go, okay, can we just give him a pain med?
Can we do something?
Whatever.
Nothing touched it.
A nerve blocker.
They tried every medicine they could, and it didn't touch it.
Viral pain, there's no pain meds for viral pain.
Nothing.
Nothing took it away.
Unless it's really mild viral pain, and then people can use some meds for it.
Didn't even.
When it's viral pain and it's infectious, like the higher infectious state.
And listen, you're healthy.
The thing is, everybody's got these bugs in them.
Everybody, girl, boy, it doesn't matter who they are.
They got them in them.
So it's not like that's the whole thing.
It's just Russian roulette, basically, or whatever.
It's like musical chairs to when it's going to hit.
It can hit you at 40.
That's when it hits.
It hits you at 45.
You can go fine.
You can go through life.
You can do whatever you're doing.
And then it hits you.
It's just horrible.
And then it can hit you younger too.
It just, it's so, it's like we all have these bugs in our system.
That's how it works.
And we all get these different conditions.
I mean, you're healthy.
You're so healthy now, it's ridiculous.
You're healthier now than, I mean, I could go just walk down the street or I can go in a meeting somewhere.
You're healthier than anybody in that meeting.
You're healthier than, I mean, that's the whole thing.
I mean, you're really rock solid.
I gave you a hug when you got here.
And it was like you had guns.
You got muscle.
You got muscle three times bigger than me in my arms.
And in your back, you were all muscle, like literally muscle.
And so it was like the whole point is, is like, yeah, you are like you're healthy with how you're taking care of yourself.
You cleaned up that bug early on so it doesn't sneak up on you down the road.
Everybody else that sneaks up on them, they end up getting sick of all these problems.
They get the high anxiety.
They get the, you know, the aches and pains.
they get the tingles of numbness they get all these other things that happen in their life
and they get the you know they get all these but you're but you're really it's you're strong
you're healthy you put this behind you yeah tell me about like the ptsd factor though because i'm
big on the ptsd because yeah uh i mean i i even wrote about it i wrote about it in the books many
times and how and the ptsd for when you've recovered from something and gone through something
it's like you think if you get a little cold you're like oh my god yeah yeah you get a cold
if i got anything any little thing it was like uh-oh what is this gonna be you know you you
overthink everything and then it just sends you back down the road of when i was super sick so it
was it was hard to actually get through that it took i don't want for me it took a couple years
i'd say it was a couple years yeah yeah i mean we we all sort of are work you know and when you're
in crisis as a family you're you're also all trying to manage your own emotions and everything
else so you know everyone has their own story I was gonna say too I'll talk about the PTS for me
too when you were I just clearly remember when he was laying down and at that point you know and I
just nothing I could do for him that's a hard like I couldn't take his pain away I'll just give it to
me I'll take it but there's nothing I could do and he looked at me and said mom don't worry about it
it's going to be okay. Like you, like you were trying to ease my emotional, you know,
breakage of feelings. He had to become the counselor. He just, in that moment, like,
what's okay, mom? And I'm like, God, you were just such a, I was calling you my monk, you know,
like my little Buddhist monk. He just was dealing with it and like, it's going to be okay. You know,
he said that, he said that, like, it's going to be okay. And, you know, and so we, we got through
he had to become a buddha i can only imagine he had to become like you know he had a little
shaved head he kind of looked you know it was really cute you know first time shaving his head
but i mean the thing is for you to even manage to manage chronic pain like gosh i mean you have this
newfound compassion for people that are also experiencing what you're experiencing out there
you know all of you that are out there experiencing what you're experiencing and
knowing that you know to be able to manage that day by day is such an intense power within you
to just manage it and you're gonna have days where you must have just felt like you wanted to give up
I can't yeah you know a lot yeah yeah you know I'm sure there's a lot of depression that comes
along and people just get so broken down that you know that this information's out there to
you know that just you know like you said we went through everything everything served in its own
way like you said it's you know everything served but but really we couldn't get to a point where
we could actually heal and here we are that's what happens there's all these little tidbits out there
there's all this information on the internet there's all these so-called studies behind it
because everybody's throwing all these studies yeah the vegans and the paleos are battling each
other over food and don't even know what causes illness and then you have all this going on
and but yet in the end you get sick you get sick it's it's really sick or you're struggling for a
while and that's that's that's what spirit told me when i was a child and said you have to understand
how important this is because when i was your age when i was 10 years old i wanted to quit
and i remember telling spirit i don't care about anybody i don't care i want to live my life i was
10 years old i want to be a kid i want to be a kid and spirit said no you don't understand and
there's there's going to be a lot of misinformation out there spirit told me and it's going to be
impossible for people to actually that really do need to heal to heal and you have to stay with
this as long as you can so I was just like fine fine but the post-traumatic stress disorder or
you know the whole thing with that the ptsd that's definitely interesting you know the thing is with
that is is it happens to everybody I know it happens to you guys too all the time you got
the chronic fatigue syndrome you got you got the the vertigo you got it doesn't you know you got
the anxiety you got the migraines you got and all of a sudden you're getting a little better and
then you get a little symptom and then you feel like you know and i always say it's still you
know healing is three step when you're doing the right things it's three steps up two steps back
and when you finally get out of there and you're out of the weeds and you're out of that depths of
the depth of darkness you know and you're finally pulled out of that then you can still have that
PTSD for a long time I mean I've seen people have it for five years four years you know years after
they've been healed or after they've healed and so it really is amazing how it works um yeah I
think ours was about the same I think that I mean I remember a day where I didn't react with when
you got sick I remember that moment going oh my gosh I didn't get that feeling in my body so you
felt like you were getting past it yeah it took about two or three could have been three years I
I just remember each time, all of us, the whole family,
each time there was sort of a sniffle or sneeze, cough,
or someone's sick at school, and we thought, oh, gosh.
The other thing that Calvin did that you, I don't know if you remember,
is that when you, in his healing process,
and we would start to transition into eating more,
he would start to get those symptoms again.
So we'd know if we were off track, and he'd say,
oh, got to go back on that protocol, back on the diet.
At the early stages.
yeah at the early stages was like oh i guess i shouldn't eat that okay i'm going back and like
you immediately track back into protocol we did that i remember that you know because you were
it was still in the early this early process of healing you were healing rapidly and then were
and then you know you go into the old ways and the old ways and like wait a minute i gotta get
back on track until it's finally all quick did you have a basketball hoop in your driveway
did i uh or instead why am i thinking you had did you did you have a basketball though
a basketball yeah yeah okay okay yeah okay all right well i'm saying i'm saying this because
i remember you telling me he was in the driveway bouncing a basketball oh yeah yeah yeah all right
well well when you told me and this was this was literally like the first warm day coming up i think
or you were just recovering you're finally walking around the house yeah you were feeling good it was
a month and a half into it you told me i called up i was like all right what's going on what's going
and you're like he's in the driveway playing basketball right now bouncing his basketball
right now you know and and uh i was just like yeah yeah because i knew emotionally yeah emotionally
you're using your arms you're getting your strength back you're bouncing your back that's
what you feel mentally like you feel past that stage of oh my god i was dying yeah and now you
feel at the stage where no i'm living my life playing and i knew that was so powerful you
yeah it was back to being a kid again back to being a kid again that's the key it's like that
was incredible you needed to be freed up and be that child again and just move on with your life
you know when people get chronic illness you guys know it's like hey wait a minute i want to move
past this i want to move on with my life i want to get past all this and you know and and and so
there's nothing better than having that final chance to do that is to finally put it behind
you and just to go back to work with so many people met them with the medical medium information
they they heal and they feel like they can go back to work they feel like they go back to do
things they feel like all that stuff when you're a child i mean it's it's just unimaginable really
because and you have to grow up fast you have to learn how to grow up fast because you had a
council mom you had to be a mom he was just kind of like it's gonna be okay yeah i know but he's
always been like that i love that and a very wise soul both my kids are it was a really interesting
experience when he was in that process of healing um especially when you have people telling you
that it was all sort of secondary gain for some reason um and that and and the other thing too
with the information what does that mean secondary gain yeah i mean secondary gain was what some of
the um professionals were telling us that um secondary gain means that he was doing it to
get out of school work okay that's what it was yeah yeah that's it like that kind of thing they
were saying and i'm like this is not my kid this isn't how he is but um that's that's that's just
I know it's awful
it's awful
but you know but I've watched that be
literally the thing
that's what it was out there you got sick
if they couldn't figure it out
which was millions of people
then it was all in your head
I think a lot of people are experiencing that
where you think you're crazy
and now it's like this is hope
now the information is in the books
the information is here in a live chat
or in any of your
you know mediums that you're out
sharing this information is that I think the the number one thing too in the process of healing and
being a catalyst for that is just hope when you're at a place where you're so feel so broken so
hopeless and so sick that you start to lose hope that there's something that can actually um be
there to sort of help you and and that was a really big for me for you to just be like hang
in there hang in there okay now he has to walk I'm like are you sure you're like yeah you got
to get him up on you got to get him on his feet and um and calvin wanted to get to his sister's
graduation and he forced himself in pain forced himself on crutches when she was at school so we
could surprise her and in her eighth grade graduation we put him in the car and it still
hurt to go up there and he was healing and i was crying all the way up because i'd hit a bump and
he's like ow but he just went through it and he showed up on his crutches and you know from then
on like you said then he started to get right in here he is we haven't had a relapse you know and
once that was here like no relapse yeah no no you're solid yeah no you're solid you're you're
past it you're over it yeah there is hope for people absolutely without a doubt i mean i wish
i could have written the books earlier than 2014 2015 i wish i could have done that yeah um and to
get the information to everybody so they can have this information um but i was helping out so many
the waiting list was in the millions by the time i was i was uh writing the books and there was just
no way to do it it had to be through the books from here on out but this was the early days and
this was this was towards the you know this was not so early in it all but it was early it was
10 years ago and it was in it you got me there you know you got me when i was doing that but like i
I tell people, don't lose hope just because you can't talk to me because now I'm doing the books.
The books have this information in it.
If you spend time to read, if you can't focus, some people, they feel so sick, they can't read the book.
Have a friend read the book to you.
Just have them read the book to you.
If you can't afford a book, go to the library.
I've done that too where I've taken pictures on my phone and sent them.
Like a chapter to somebody that they could read.
Or I'd send the protocol and different things that they could start to just, you know.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Scott Bakula and Chelsea Field were here yesterday.
They're actually stocking some libraries right now.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
There's been some requests, and they're actually stocking some libraries with some books.
They just said, hey, you just let them know on social media somehow.
We'll try to keep an eye on it, too.
I agree with that, too.
So the information's out there now.
But, you know, in the time when you guys, you know, the books weren't there and you found me and stuff.
Yeah.
It's an honor.
It was an honor to know you guys through the process and help you and be there for you guys.
And I've never forgotten.
I mean, you know, we're family now.
I know.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Yeah.
That's so amazing.
When you go through something like that.
Yeah.
And it just, it bonds you together, you know.
Definitely.
Yeah.
where you can't break that.
It's just always going to be there.
I love you guys.
I love you guys.
But I have to say, you know, you're fighters.
I swear to God, you're fighters.
And I always tell people, just find that fight.
It's in you.
Just find that fight, right?
It is.
Don't you think?
Yeah.
There is a place.
there is a place and that i think that's my this was like the most uh the most challenging thing
i've had to go through and i always look at what's my takeaway that i can share with my yoga students
or even people in my life and i think you know indomitable will it's it's that like there's
something inside of us that is such a charge and such a force that it's untouchable from anything
else and that we have to find that place and it's there and i and i want people to find that place
what you're doing now you're doing you got your yoga studio going on it's in vermont yeah like
tell me what's going on like how can people even reach you i mean do you even get there and do yoga
i mean i want to go out there i'm gonna do yoga with you here i was like oh we can i made you
guys come out here to california yeah and you know it's like hey can we come out there and i was like
yeah come out here you're so funny can you come out be on my show like in 24 hours yes i got
myself i actually taught class friday morning oh my god and then hopped the plane later like
just barely made the car yeah so um i you know my studio's in bradamore vermont i mean it's it's
this great community i just wanted to provide a sacred space for people to come and access
uh through yoga um just to access a place you know being in their body in a way that's accepting
really finding the place we're talking about you're probably gonna get phone calls now though
just be prepared because that'd be great i'm this is this is my journey right i just expanded my
studio where i can only like squeeze about 30 and i do the heated because i love the infrared heat
But people also talk to me just in general.
It's freezing cold in Vermont.
It's freezing cold in Maine.
It's freezing.
27 degrees out right now.
That's right.
I forget.
It's probably 12 degrees in Maine right now.
Up way up.
It was really cold.
Yeah.
So I'm here too.
I'm here as a facilitator of getting people to just live a life they love and live a proper life.
You have a lot of experience because when you get through something like you did,
I mean, that's what I always tell you guys.
You guys are experts when you literally you're going through all that experience of being sick
and going to doctor to doctor and making life about doctor's appointments
because you have no choice and all these other things.
You get the experience and something inside you becomes powerful, your soul,
everything through the whole process.
And I don't want anybody to give up on any level.
and then
so it's what it is
it's that experience
with it all, it's really powerful and healing
and I mean you guys
are experts, that's how I see it
I mean I see Calvin as an expert because
he knows more about health than so
many people that are professionals
he knows more about health than any dietitian
I've met and I've met some
great ones that know a lot
he knows more about health than many of the nutritionists
I've ever met, he knows more about health
that's the irony, that's the kind of thing
it creates like i'm hoping by going through an experience like that i'm hoping you do some kind
of health coaching eventually i know you're young i know you're only 18 years old and you're a kid
but you're not a kid you know i get it yeah but you know i'm hoping you do some health coaching
i'm hoping that you like start something like that because your experience of what you went through
and how much you know and the knowledge you have i think is priceless yeah and i'm hoping you
actually start something and and start and helping people on that level too because i know that you
know so much so it's incredible when you I want people to become experts I want
you guys to become experts you know I've always said that read the books become
experts that's that's when you become an expert too it's experience you have of
what you've been through then you read the medical meeting books so you know
the truth and then you put that together and then that's that's that's what
happens and I think what's great too is it empowers you to take responsibility
for your health and you know like you said there's only so much we can do but
But then we can access the more we're educated to make the choices that we make to be able to empower ourselves.
Because we have to be such big advocates for ourselves.
Liver Rescue is a good book.
That book right there.
Potatoes.
I love potatoes.
They're like liver.
You'll hear out there, don't eat a potato.
Meanwhile, potato has lysine in there, which actually rids CFS.
It rids fibromyalgia.
People don't know this stuff.
They just literally, it's a land of the lost out there.
You're great.
Yeah, I already drank mine.
celery is healing the world
we know that it's healing millions worldwide
even though science and research says there's nothing in it
they say there's nothing in celery
well it's your experience for yourself
science and research doesn't know what's wrong with people
but they'll say celery juice doesn't work
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Click that bell so you get notifications or something.
How it works.
Super easy.
See, I'm a dummy about that stuff, right?
All right.
Anyway, I love you guys.
This has been an amazing, amazing, amazing time.
And thank you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We love you too.
It's been such an honor to be here with you and with everybody out there who's watching.
So really such an honor and privilege.
I hope that you all get some really good information for yourself to move forward into a more powerful life for yourself in whatever way that is.
Do you have a message for moms?
Do you have a message for moms for you all?
Well, messages for moms are really just, you know, I mean, for me, it was just keep on keeping on.
Like, keep listening to your gut.
That's really about everyone.
As a mom, you know, we birth our children.
We're still so connected.
You know, when Calvin talks about wanting to stay in California, when I go back to Vermont, I'm thinking my emboled cord doesn't stretch that far.
They were just so connected that moms to just hang in there and really trust yourself.
Really be able to find a place where you can get calm and to get centered
and really be able to connect into that deeper source that's within you
because you know what's right for your kid.
You really do.
You do.
It doesn't matter what someone says.
Follow that lead, to just follow that lead.
There's people like us out here and other people, too, are here to support you in that,
to just like help you when your faith drops when you just feel like you're gonna you can't go on
but there there are people there to help lift you up and move you forward so you know incredible
message hang in there incredible message i love you guys and uh thanks for watching
yep and i'm gonna turn this this uh device off here bless your heart
